Sunday, August 05, 2007

What makes one an Armstrongite by Koey Koala

This was excerpted by Mark Tabladillo's Jesus Loves Fellowship based on a poll that I started which asked , "What makes one an Armstrongite" back in 2004.

---Editor, Post WCG Life and Theology



I think Armstrongism could be summarized by listing the 10 major areas of theology and his particular twisted views on each of them:
1. Theology of Armstrongism - God a "family" not limited to Father and Son (orthodoxy teaches one God; Father, Son & Holy Spirit)
2. Christology of Armstrongism - Jesus "qualified" to become ruler (orthodoxy teaches he was already God made flesh and so did not need to qualify)
3. Pneumatology of Armstrongism - Holy Spirit is a "force" not God (orthodoxy teaches God is Spirit, God is Holy, God is Holy Spirit)
4. Angelology of Armstrongism - close to orthodox
5. Anthropology of Armstrongism - saved humans to become God (orthodoxy teaches saved humans are to live in eternity with God)
6. Hamartiology of Armstrongism - sin refers to small narrow selection from the OT laws (orthodoxy teaches sin is missing the mark, lawlessness)
7. Soteriology of Armstrongism - salvation by OT works and offered to most in a 100 year period (orthodox churches detail our election, calling, regeneration, conversion, union with Christ, justification, adoption, sanctification, perseverance and glorification in far greater depth than Armstrongism even considered)
8. Bibliology of Armstrongism - Bible a coded book unlocked only by Sabbath-keeping and British Israelism (orthodoxy teaches the Bible is understood by illumination of the Holy Spirit & British Israelism is a fairy tale)
9. Ecclesiology of Armstrongism - the Church at large is not of God, because they do not keep the OT Sabbath. Herbert claimed he was the only apostle for 1800 years and dictated a monarchial church government (orthodoxy teaches that the Church consists of all who have the Holy Spirit in them, not a fleshly observance of a physical day)
10. Eschatology of Armstrongism - post-tribulation, premillennial, literal 1000 years, Jesus returning in various years from 1940's to 1970's, well er "in our lifetime," key to prophecy is the fable of Anglo-Israelism (orthodoxy varies on this point, tho most believe the 1000 years is symbolic because apocryphal literature is a symbolic not a literal genre)

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Sunday, June 03, 2007

This sounds like the god of Armstrongism and his ministers to me!!!


Richard, are you sure it is the God of the Old Testament? Or is it Armstrongism's twisted interpretation of God in both testaments? I really think you speak very true of the latter rather than the former.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Wise Words fom Byker Bob: Armstrongism tried over and over DOES NOT WORK!


Ya know, J, last summer I was listening to the Michael Medved program. On this particular occasion, he was observing how every couple of decades, any one of several influential professors on some of the larger ivy league campuses will attempt to rehabilitate the concept of communism. And, the first thing this person will state is that communism really is not a bad way of life if we could only get the right people running it. They'll
blame tyrannical dictators for the failure of the philosophy itself.

Now, Medved wondered, how many times do we have to try communism and have it fail before we realize that the very philosophy corrupts leaders and makes them into the oppressive types of tyrants that are universally associated with communism?

That for me was a huge lightbulb moment! I knew immediately that this had a direct parallel to the typical Armstrongite doctrines, and the ACOGs! How many times do we have to experiment with the so-called 18 restored truths before we realize that that very system will always produce oppressive leaders, and very toxic cultic behavior????? It's a cause and effect relationship, and though Armstrongites consider themselves to be Christians, the ACOG system always produces very unChristian behavior! I suppose you could privately practice Armstrongism in your home, and not do anyone any harm, but the minute you turn it into an organized group, voila! Hello cultism!

Far be it from me to try to dictate peoples' choices in their religious practices, but I personally feel that anyone who goes from ACOG to ACOG, attempting to find the "good" one is just kidding themselves.
Source: Shadows of the WCG blog, response to article: Scattered and in Disarray 05/27/07

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Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Armstrongites: modern day Pharisees or Sadducees






Actually this website at http://www.bible.ca/neo-sadduceeism.htm argues that Armstrongism is a form of Neo-Sadduceeism. Very interesting read.

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Monday, April 23, 2007

Wise words from Neotherm: Fundies are bullies


There is a spirit that connects all fundamentalists together. It is the spirit of being a bully. This attitude is easy to find among evangelicals and Armstrongites. What these fundamentalist use to bully others is Biblical scripture. They talk about Hell, the Tribulation and the End of the Age with great energy and enthusiasm. And through fear they hope to capture and enslave the hearers. What I find to be revealing is that seldom have I ever detected a spirit of love in these declarations of present or impending diaster. I find, instead, a spirit of resentment and a desire to harm. I believe that Armstrongites view with glee the misery recounted daily by the news media. The attitude of the bully actually permeated Armstrongism. I have been around many of the leading men in the WCG who were at Big Sandy in the Seventies. The word "bully" describes them accurately. They were people who fully leveraged themselves using the hierarchical structure of command. Another phrase that comes to mind is "loveless". When interacting with these people I never got a sense that they motivated by love. While this is an extradinarily strong proof that Armstrongism is a non-Christian cult, it is also a very personal experience that does not serve well to inform everybody. You had to be there. While the mouth is the principal weapon among these people, I am not surprised that Dart would reach for a shooting iron. It is all in the same spirit. And besides, Armstrongites have advocated the exermination of Native Americans, Maoris and other indigenous peoples for years. While they would probably not lift a finger to accomplish it, the spirit of murder is still present.

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Monday, April 16, 2007

Wise Words from Byker Bob: Imagined if Jesus Christ behaved like HWA???




What if Jesus had behaved as an ACOG? Boy, wouldn't the New Testament be a totally different document? I believe this speculative topic is fair game, too, since the ACOGs profess to be practicing Christianity in the same manner as the early Christians.Just in briefly pondering this topic, I've come up with some very interesting changes that would be required. I would guess that some of our other members will come up with some additional contributions.First, we'd need to radically alter the work that Jesus and the disciples did. If they behaved in the Armstrongian mode, Jesus would constantly be hammering people for their tithes and offerings, so that opulent buildings could be built to house and train additional young disciples, and to enhance Jesus' credibility amongst the world leaders of the day. He would also be chauferred from city to city in a fine Egyptian chariot to preach his message. The message would need to be changed from one of salvation, to one dominated by the end of the age, to capitalize on the value of scare, and stimulating additional donations.There would be no concern for the world at large, only for those who believed and were part of Jesus' church. Instead of reprimanding Peter for cutting off the Roman Centurion's ear, and rather than heal him, he'd probably say, "Oh well, he's not one of us, so let the dead bury the dead!"We'd also need to edit the passages concerning miraculous healings, so that perhaps 99% of the healings failed, with the "patients" being ridiculed as "dumb sheep", and blamed for their lack of faith. Rather than teaching that the Sabbath is made for man, Jesus would be required to select and carefully choose certain requirements from the 613 Levitical laws, and to insist that they be kept to the nth degree.He would not be concerned with feeding the masses physical food. Perhaps those who were baptized would get a morsel or two, but largely they'd be told to start tithing so that God would bless them.When his disciples asked him serious hard and deep questions, he would compare them to Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, and tell them that they were in rebellion, and in the bonds of Satan. No way would he be patient with them, and try to minister to their deep inner needs as he was with Thomas. In fact, Thomas would have been told, "My way or the highway".To elude capture by Romans and Jews, Jesus would have travelled to a place outside of his would be captors' jurisdiction, where he maintained a fine third or fourth home, and kept a fine sailing vessel ready to travel on short notice. He would also have a team of attorneys and possibly an armed bodyguard to defend him.Finally, Jesus message would need to incorporate the total valuelessness of the human experience. Humans are totally secondary to the law. They are only important if they obey. The minute they exercise free will apart from the law, they are to be blotted out for eternity.
---Editor's note: We can thank God Almighty that when he sent His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ was NEVER, EVER like an Herbert Armstrong or an Armstrongite. Amen!

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