Intelligent quotes of the day: condemnations on XCG's insensitivity on the Virgina Tech tragedy
Editor's note: We at Post WCG Life and Theology share mourning and loss of the over thirty people killed at Virginia Tech campus earlier this week. We also firmly support people (like those on Gary Scott's blog XCG) who have soundly condemned the insensitive and unchristian comments from the XCG splinters who have exploited this tragedy for their own purposes. My message to those who condemned the XCG's cold and heartless statements, do not back down! You got two thumbs---way up!!!
Unfortunately, I must edit Richard Ames’ statement to more accurately reflect the truth.
It should read as follows: “From Brookfield to Kosovo, and from Blacksburg to Baghdad, our world is mired in violence, pain, and suffering. We wish we had the answers, brethren, but events of the recent past prove that we don’t know any more than the people to whom we condescendingly refer as ‘the world.’
It should read as follows: “From Brookfield to Kosovo, and from Blacksburg to Baghdad, our world is mired in violence, pain, and suffering. We wish we had the answers, brethren, but events of the recent past prove that we don’t know any more than the people to whom we condescendingly refer as ‘the world.’
At the risk of sounding somewhat twisted, I must also ask, what if the grim reaper, when he was deciding that a bunch of people needed to die at VT, had picked a disgruntled and depressed teenager from Flurry’s or Pack’s congregations to do the deeds, rather than a Korean immigrant? Would it cause any soul searching, and maybe some reforms to get rid of some of the anachronistic, disfunctional teachings of the ACOGs? I had begun to think that Brookfield might be reponsible some of the recent liberalization and reform at LCG, but on the heels of Ames’ quotation, obviously not!
---Byker Bob
Well yes, when families are grieving, it’s meaningless and a waste of time to comfort them and shed tears with them. It’s so much better to tell them about the eagerly-anticipated great tribulation and seven last plagues and second coming of Christ and second resurrection.
It just shows you how out of touch these Armstrongist mouthpieces are with reality, and how hard and stone-cold-dead their hearts are: in times of horror and pain, if you started mouthing words about the great tribulation and whatnot, you can be sure that the mourners will stare at you in utter disbelief, wondering just what it was that caused you to go off your nut. It’s your words that they’d regard as meaningless, not the caring words of comfort they receive.
Even more, right after a mentally ill person has murdered your loved ones, the last thing you want is to be accosted by someone intent on sharing his waaaaay-out-of-the-mainstream religious beliefs with you. You’d surely wonder if all the crazies were coming out of the woodwork just to make your life a living hell.
Only someone whose natural human feelings were severely atrophied could make such a comment as meaningless words of “healing”.
Another observation: contrary to the Flurryites, good child rearing is important, but it’s no sure protection against mental illness, which often has nothing to do with how a child is raised.
Well, these reactions to the massacre are just appalling for their opportunism and cruel, uncharitable, uncaring utter cluelessness.
It just shows you how out of touch these Armstrongist mouthpieces are with reality, and how hard and stone-cold-dead their hearts are: in times of horror and pain, if you started mouthing words about the great tribulation and whatnot, you can be sure that the mourners will stare at you in utter disbelief, wondering just what it was that caused you to go off your nut. It’s your words that they’d regard as meaningless, not the caring words of comfort they receive.
Even more, right after a mentally ill person has murdered your loved ones, the last thing you want is to be accosted by someone intent on sharing his waaaaay-out-of-the-mainstream religious beliefs with you. You’d surely wonder if all the crazies were coming out of the woodwork just to make your life a living hell.
Only someone whose natural human feelings were severely atrophied could make such a comment as meaningless words of “healing”.
Another observation: contrary to the Flurryites, good child rearing is important, but it’s no sure protection against mental illness, which often has nothing to do with how a child is raised.
Well, these reactions to the massacre are just appalling for their opportunism and cruel, uncharitable, uncaring utter cluelessness.
---Jared Olar
Ruling over sinful thoughts is tough work.
The usual mind-control diatribe: if bad things happen, it’s all your fault because you don’t pray enough, don’t fast enough, don’t tithe enough, don’t study enough, and don’t work hard enough to banish “sinful thoughts”.... It is impossible to be in control of your thoughts if you have a chemical imbalance or are otherwise mentally afflicted.
The sick thinking of just one individual can bring tragedy to a multitude of people. Therefore, we each have an enormous responsibility to rule over and subdue our own sinful thoughts.
I love how UCG tries to scare us by implying we are all capable of slipping up (by not “subduing” sinful thoughts) and will thereby cause us to wreak the same kind of havoc as a mentally deranged individual with a clear history of troubles.
---John
...The problem is that they think that prayer will solve the problem. Some of the xcg’s probably think the man was demon possessed- and not mentally ill.
Their advice to someone that has asked for healing and hasn’t received it is to re-examine oneself and continue to pray about it. It doesn’t occur to them that the answer was no and that the individual should seek out competent healthcare.
With regard to the individual at Virginia Tech, it looks like the system failed to help him. The warning signs were all there, he was referred to counseling, and even the police were involved with him at one point for stalking. At one of those points he should have been sent to the loony bin for treatment. Now there are 30+ young lives snuffed out and a Holocaust survivor as well. The families and friends of those people need consolation, not false propoganda about The World Tomorrow, or to hear about how observing the sabbath, tithing, and prayer will spare them from a similar fate in the Great Tribulation.
Their advice to someone that has asked for healing and hasn’t received it is to re-examine oneself and continue to pray about it. It doesn’t occur to them that the answer was no and that the individual should seek out competent healthcare.
With regard to the individual at Virginia Tech, it looks like the system failed to help him. The warning signs were all there, he was referred to counseling, and even the police were involved with him at one point for stalking. At one of those points he should have been sent to the loony bin for treatment. Now there are 30+ young lives snuffed out and a Holocaust survivor as well. The families and friends of those people need consolation, not false propoganda about The World Tomorrow, or to hear about how observing the sabbath, tithing, and prayer will spare them from a similar fate in the Great Tribulation.
---Charlie Kieran
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